The Fifth Year Anniversary of September 11th Attack on Benghazi Libya…

NOTE: I am posting This specific for Sundance, who will be very busy at the moment. He wrote This specific last year on September 11. (signed) Stella

I wish he will rejoin us at any moment!

To honor the memory of those lost on September 11th/12th 2012:

The Benghazi Brief

The “Benghazi Brief” remains the most controversial research report we have ever produced. The brief contains over two years of research as well as hundreds of very specific factual citations supporting the idea. Two years after the idea was originally written, as well as not 1 aspect outlined within the brief has ever been identified as inaccurate.

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We know coming from the Bret Baier interview with Hillary Clinton which she was physically located at her 7th floor office in Washington DC on the night of the attack 9/11/12.

Unfortunately we also know during the November 2012 Thanksgiving holiday a mysterious fire took place in which building. Well, actually directly above her exact office – cause undetermined.

A “fire” which preceded an unfortunate slip as well as fall for the Secretary, resulting in a concussion, which led to the discovery of a blood clot, which ultimately delayed her congressional testimony before a Senate Hearing into the events of the night in question.

We know the Libyan uprising began on February 10th of 2011, as well as we also know which sometime around the end of February 2011 President Obama signed a presidential directive authorizing the State Dept as well as CIA to begin a covert operation to arm the Libyan “rebels”.

We also know of a Second Presidential Finding Memo authorizing additional CIA covert action in 2012, This specific time in Syria. However, unlike the 2011 Libyan operation we do not know the operational name of the second action in 2012 (Syria).

We know the Libyan “rebels” were positioned in two strategic places. Benghazi, as well as the port city of Darnah, both located in Northeastern Libya.

We know This specific 2011 Libyan covert operation came to be known as “Operation Zero Footprint“. We know Secretary Clinton as well as CIA head Panetta were the primary sponsors for the joint State Dept./CIA approach; as well as we know which specifically because of a U.N. Security Council resolution (unattended by Ambassador Susan Rice) the operation fell under the military command authority of NATO not (important to repeat), NOT, the U.S. Military.

We know by the time operation “Zero Footprint” began, AFRICOM commander General Carter Ham was removed coming from OPSEC oversight within the Libyan campaign as well as NATO commander Admiral James G. Stavridis was in charge.

Stavridis was the Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) at the time of the Libyan uprising. He retired as SACEUR in 2013

In 2011, 57-year-old Stavridis was the perfect pick for NATO Libyan intervention considering he will be the son of Turkish immigrants. Turkey played a key role in what might be the most politically dangerous aspect of the events to the White House once the goals changed to redirection of the weapons coming from Operation Zero Footprint.

We know Operation Zero Footprint was the covert transfer of weapons coming from the U.S to the Libyan “rebels”. We also know the operation avoided the concerns with congressional funding, as well as potential for public scrutiny, through financing by the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

We also know which officials within the government of Qatar served as the intermediaries for the actual transfer of the weapons, thereby removing the footprint of the U.S. intervention.

We know the entire operation was coordinated as well as controlled by the State Department as well as CIA. We also know (coming from the Senate Foreign Relations Benghazi hearings) which “Zero Footprint” was unknown to the 2011 Pentagon as well as/or DoD commanders who might have been tasked with any military response to the 9/11/12 attack – namely AFRICOM General Carter Ham.

However, the idea might be implausible to think which then Defense Secretary Bob Gates or Joint Chiefs Chair Admiral McMullen were completely unaware of the operation. Even today, despite the numerous hearings as well as reports, This specific aspect remains murky.

Both Defense Secretary Gates as well as Joint Chiefs Chair McMullen were in place when Operation Zero Footprint began. However, both retired coming from their jobs in Sept of 2011, as well as were replaced by Leon Panetta as well as Martin Dempsey respectively.

Leon Panetta was CIA Director at the beginning of Operation Zero Footprint (March 2011) as well as was replaced by CIA Director David Petraeus within the fall of 2011 as Panetta replaced Bob Gates as well as became Secretary of Defense.

However, Panetta (right now as Def Sec) as well as JC Martin Dempsey were the two who initially briefed President Obama on the night of Sept 11th 2012. This specific will be an important fact to remember – because of his previous CIA role in constructing Zero Footprint, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta definitely had knowledge of the intents of the joint State Dept/CIA mission in Benghazi, Martin Dempsey may not have.

We know the White House appears to have followed “The Intelligence Oversight Act of 1980” in informing the congressional “Gang of Eight” of Zero Footprint.

The Gang of Eight in 2011 might have included: Speaker – John Boehner, Minority Leader – Nancy Pelosi; House Permanent Select Committee on Intel Chairman – Mike Rogers, as well as his Democrat counterpart Charles Ruppersberger; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, as well as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid; along with Senate Intel Chair Diane Feinstein as well as her Republican counterpart, Saxby Chambliss.

coming from Hillary interviews we also know the White House liaison for Secretary Clinton as well as CIA Director Leon Panetta during Operation Zero Footprint was National Security Advisor To the President, Tom Donilon.

With This specific information we can assemble a cast of people “within the KNOW” of Operation Zero Footprint on two specific date blocks. March 2011 through Pre 9/11/12 attack – as well as – Post 9/11/12 attack forward.

March 2011 through Pre 9/11/12 attack: Who knew of Operation “Zero Footprint”?:

        • President Obama as well as Vice President Biden (both Dems)
        • Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (Dem)
        • CIA Director Leon Panetta (March 2011 – June 2011)
        • *CIA Director General David Petraeus (?) (Sept 2011 – Nov 2012)
        • NATO Commander, James G Stavridis
        • White House National Security Advisor Tom Donilon (Dem)
        • White House National Security Spox Tommy Vietor (Donilon aide)
        • White House National Security Advisor John Brennan (Dem)
        • Speaker of the House John Boehner (Rep)
        • Minority Leader – Nancy Pelosi (Dem)
        • House Permanent Select Committee on Intel Chairman – Mike Rogers (Rep)
        • Minority House Intel Committee – Charles Ruppersberger (Dem)
        • Senate Minority Leader – Mitch McConnell (Rep)
        • Senate Majority Leader – Harry Reid (Dem)
        • Senate Intel Chair – Diane Feinstein (Dem)
        • Minority Senate Intel Committee – Saxby Chambliss (Rep)
        • [State Dept] U.S. Libyan Ambassador – Chris Stevens
        • [State Dept] U.S. Asst Secretary of State – Andrew Shapiro
        • [State Dept] Senior Head of U.S. Weapons Office – Mark Adams

Along with whomever inside each nation’s state government which was involved in either the finance (UAE), or the logistics (Qatar). [as well as later, 2012 Turkey]

Obviously the “know” crowd might include the ultimate end destination users, “The Libyan Rebel Commanders”:

        • Rebel Leader (Islamic Fighting Group) Abu Sufian Ibriham Ahmed Hamuda Bin Qumu – Darnah Brigade – Ansar Al Sharia
        • Rebel Leader (Islamic Fighting Group) Abu Khattala – Commander of an Islamist militia group called the Abu Obaida bin Jarrah Brigade (17th Feb Brigade) Benghazi – Ansar Al Sharia

*NOTE* Both of these individuals were labeled as officially recognized State Dept. terrorists in December of 2013. Khattala recently having been arrested.

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In addition, the “political face” of the Libyan Transitional Government Justice Minister Mustafa Abdel Jalil, should also be included in This specific list of people who knew of operation Zero Footprint while the idea was underway.

Justice Abdel Jalil served as the international face of, as well as spokesperson for, “the rebels” in 2011/12. He worked closely with Chris Stevens as well as highly visibly with Secretary Hillary Clinton – However, in my opinion – after extensive research- Jalil was a total patsy. He was paid well to present a comfortable face of the movement, however once Gaddaffi was killed Jalil was quickly dispatched.

This specific Brings us to who knew about “Operation Zero Footprint” post Benghazi 9/11/12 attack:

To wit you can easily add:

        • CIA Director General David Petraeus
        • Adjunct, as well as Interim, CIA Director – Mike Morrell
        • U.S. Attorney General – Eric Holder
        • President Obama Advisor as well as right now Chief of Staff – Denis McDonough
        • President Obama Advisor as well as right now Treasury Sec – Jack Lew
        • President Obama Advisor as well as right now National Security Advisor – Tony Blinkin
        • Former UN Ambassador as well as right now Senior Nat Sec Advisor – Susan Rice
        • Chief White House Communications Director – Ben Rhodes

Focusing on the post 9/11/12 team for a moment:

This specific photo was taken at 1:28am Benghazi time. [7:28pm DC] Following a one hour phone call between POTUS, V-Potus, as well as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

This specific photo, which looks like one of those royalty free photos was taken on 9/11/12 at 1:28am Benghazi time. [7:28pm DC] Following a one hour phone call between POTUS, V-Potus, as well as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Jack Lew (far right) was Obama’s Chief of Staff. Donilon as well as McDonough had just left Tommy Vietor within the situation room to update POTUS within the Oval Office. POTUS as well as VPOTUS had just hung up the phone.

We know McDonough as well as Donilon were within the immediate loop on the night of 9/11/12 because they were photographed updating President Obama at 7:30pm within the Oval Office along using a curious Jack Lew who was Chief of Staff at the time.

In addition we know coming from former White House National Security spokesperson Tommy “dude” Vietor, which President Obama was not within the situation room where Vietor as well as his boss Tom Donilon were keeping up on events.

Here’s where the idea gets interesting:

Leon Panetta was the CIA Director when Operation Zero Footprint was authorized as well as began, however he left the CIA about 4 months later (June 30th, 2011) as well as was replaced by General David Petraeus (August/Sept 2011).

[*Note* the idea will be important to remember when the 2nd authorized CIA program began in 2012 for Syria Petraeus might have been included]

Under This specific principle you can see which General Petraeus had ZERO liability for the origin of the Benghazi weapons deals – the idea was a joint State Dept/CIA program already being conducted when Petraeus arrived. If the idea blew up, the idea was not his political problem – This specific MADE PETRAEUS A RISK.

We know which during the summer of 2012 “a whistleblower” popped up as well as gave House Republican Leader Eric Cantor a tip about CIA Director General Petraeus being in an extramarital affair using a reporter named Paula Broadwell; along with rumors Petraeus may have shared classified information with Broadwell during pillow talk etc.

We also know which Eric Cantor told AG Eric Holder as well as FBI director Robert Mueller about the claim as well as Mueller began an investigation of Petraeus within the Summer of 2012 before the Benghazi attack in September.

However, we also know which neither Holder nor Mueller (nor Cantor) informed anyone in congress This specific investigation of Petraeus was taking place. which investigation included Broadwell turning over her computer to the FBI within the same summer, as well as later a search of her home which did reveal confidential information supposedly leaked coming from Petraeus.

Sometime in October of 2012 Director of National Intelligence James Clapper had a conversation with Petraeus urging him to leave.

Immediately after the election of 2012 CIA Director David Petraeus resigned (Nov 9th) as well as interim CIA Director Mike Morrel took over. This specific will be why Petraeus never testified to the Senate, as well as Morrel took his place.

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We also know This specific timely switch was beneficial to both the Clinton as well as Obama camps because Morrel was more politically connected to them than Petraeus.

Given the risks of exposure to both “Operation Zero Footprint”, as well as worse, the buy-back/redirection to Syria, the idea’s understandable the risk to Clinton which Petraeus carried. However, Petraeus was not of any risk himself; maybe Leon Panetta might be, however not Petraeus – who, the idea’s important to add, came coming from the Defense Department to the office of CIA.

Petraeus’s replacement, interim CIA Director Mike Morrel, as well as White House Communications Director Ben Rhodes, were the two men who constructed the infamous “Susan Rice” talking points.

After Morrel testified to congress about the CIA involvement around Benghazi, as well as the issues of terrorism vs. Islamic movie (happy squirrel chase) etc. Morrel was replaced at the CIA by John Brennan.

We know which both Hillary Clinton as well as CBS immediately hired Mike Morrel. CBS News President David Rhodes -who hired Morrel- will be the brother of the White House’s Ben Rhodes; who Morrel coordinated the Clinton friendly, albeit controversial, talking points with.

While the idea may seem suspect to jump to conclusions, the fact which Eric Holder did not inform either Intelligence Committee of the FBI Petraeus investigation -which will be generally standard procedure- lends plausible suspicion to an outline which the events were used as leverage to remove Petraeus; as well as all of the subsequent risk he represented.

If you accept which Petraeus’s knowledge of, however non-involvement in, “Operation Zero Footprint” represented a potential risk to Hillary as well as Obama; you’d have to admit which Mike Morrel was by far the more White House friendly person talking about the CIA involvement around the joint State Dept/CIA Benghazi objectives.

Also, the idea might be disingenuous to ignore the fact Morrel’s loyalty therein was rewarded financially.

Lastly, one of the more slippery people to pin down on the Benghazi attack, as well as subsequent issues, has been Leon Panetta. If you think about Panetta’s role within the origin of Operation Zero Footprint his comment avoidance makes perfect sense.

Trey Gowdy needs to subpoena Panetta for the Special Committee.

OK, sorry which was more than a moment – however was needed.

right now back to Libya 2011/2012 as well as the Rift Between State/CIA as well as DoD/Pentagon over the arming of the “Rebels”. This specific will be definitely QUITE IMPORTANT because the idea explains how far out Hillary Clinton had put herself in This specific covert op “Zero Footprint”.

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A few reminder articles will outline as well as refresh why the White House kept DoD as well as The Pentagon at arms length throughout their covert operation:

[…] defense leaders in Washington [March 2011] slammed the brakes on the extent of US help to the rebels. Top officials said which some country different than the US should perform any future training as well as equipping of the Libyan opposition groups. Under withering congressional probing as well as criticism of what was described as an ill-defined mission to aid a rebel force which officials know little about, Robert Gates, the US defense secretary, sketched out a largely limited role for the US military going forward.

Gates as well as Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told members of the House Armed Services panel which many different countries contain the ability to train as well as support the rebels. “My view might be, if there will be going to be which kind of assistance to the opposition, there are plenty of sources for the idea different than the United States,” said Gates. “Somebody else should do which.” Gates as well as Mullen told Congress which future US participation will be limited as well as will not involve an active role in airstrikes as time goes on. (link)

coming from a brand new York Times article about the same hearing -as well as- the discussion of the CIA involvement. Again, remember This specific will be 2011 – you have Secretary Gates, Joint Chiefs Mullen, as well as CIA Director Panetta:

2011 […] Gates as well as Mullen were testifying before the House as well as Senate Armed Services Committees within the wake of revelations which little teams of CIA operatives are working in Libya. Gates declined to comment on the CIA activities in Libya. US officials have acknowledged which the CIA has sent little teams of operatives into Libya as well as helped rescue a crew member of a US fighter jet which crashed.

The CIA’s precise role in Libya will be not clear. Intelligence experts said the CIA might have sent officials to make contact with the opposition as well as assess the strength as well as needs of the rebel forces within the event Barack Obama, the US president, decided to arm them. (link)

In hindsight we are right now fully aware which unknown to both Mullen as well as Gates -at the time they were speaking- was President Obama having authorized Operation Zero Footprint several weeks earlier, as well as Panetta carrying the idea out.

The State Dept (Hillary) as well as CIA (Panetta) were right now within the execution mode of the covert op.

We right now know against the March/April 2011 backdrop of growing information about al-Qaeda’s presence within the rebel units – there was a genuine difference of opinion on whether even getting involved was a not bad idea.

The Defense Department (Gates, Mullen) was saying no, the State Department (Clinton, Rice), was saying yes.

Remember too, This specific covert operation was going to require NATO Admiral James Stavridis to allow the weapons into Libya. So lets look at what he was quoted saying around the same timeframe as Mullen as well as Gates, *knowing Stavridis was one of the actual key figures to make the weapons delivery possible*:

2011 – […] right now, as the White House as well as NATO continue to debate the possible ramifications of arming the Libyan opposition, the Haqqani network-linked Afghan commander says Libyan al Qaeda affiliates seem to be more “enthusiastic” about the war against Gaddafi every day.

as well as coming from what the Afghan Taliban commander has seen, there appears to be more than “flickersof al Qaeda’s presence in Libya, the description given by NATO commander Admiral James Stavridis. (link)

There will be Stavridis playing down the possibility of al-Qaeda ideology within the make-up of the Islamic Fighting Group – which will be important because by the time This specific quote was attributed Stavridis was already part of the team coordinating the shipments.

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Also, remember R2P? This specific March/April 2011 time frame will be when “Responsibility To Protect” came up as a justification for our engagement. Samantha Power, Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton all wanting to fully support “the rebels”.

Ultimately Obama/Jarrett (The White House) agreed with Hillary Inc (State Dept); hence “Zero Footprint” got the nod – well, let’s be definitely accurate: the idea “sort of” got the nod.

Think about the idea. President Obama authorized arming the Libyan rebels, however the covert nature of Zero Footprint actually reflects the political filter through which all Obama White House decisions are made. A White House team which always looks for an escape hatch in case any decision will be ever publicly wrong.

If the rebels were al-Qaeda, the covert op lends plausible deniability.

Isn’t the idea strange how in 2014 hindsight you can clearly see exactly what we right now know as the “Benghazi narrative”; the use of their exact escape hatch because they were al-Qaeda, as well as the idea did go horribly as well as publicly wrong.

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Operation Zero Footprint Becomes Political as well as Legal Risk

the idea should be noted, as well as actually emphasized, which Operation Zero Footprint, at least in 2011, was not illegal. Indeed, all indicators are which President Obama followed his constitutional responsibility as he carried out his executive authority.

We know in late February 2011 President Obama signed a Presidential Finding Memo authorizing the State Department as well as CIA to engage in actions within Libya to identify a course of action.

We know in March 2011 when Hillary Clinton (State Dept) as well as Leon Panetta (CIA) constructed “Operation Zero Footprint” which President Obama approved the covert action as well as then informed the Gang of Eight of the weapons transfer operation.

Both of those known facts speak well to the Executive Office following a legally outlined process. This specific does not, however, dismiss the concern, which became the reality, which the action itself was terribly flawed as well as horridly imprudent.

During March, April as well as May 2011 there was enough intelligence information flowing to the White House informing them of exactly who might be the beneficiaries of U.S. Libyan involvement as well as specifically providing weapons. the idea did not take long to identify the Benghazi as well as Darnah “rebels” were actually affiliates of al-Qaeda.

While no-one reporting in 2011 was aware of Operation Zero Footprint, there were literally hundreds of media reports showcasing the ideology of the Libyan “rebel” uprising. Indeed there were numerous reports in mainstream media outlets of al-Qaeda fighters (numerous factions) flowing to Libya to oust their life-long nemesis, Gaddaffi.

coming from a policy standpoint the idea will have to be left up to historians to pore over the facts as well as ultimately decide what was *This specific* White House goal within the entire region.

      • Ben Ali removal -Tunisia- seemed OK to the administration, Obama as well as Clinton.
      • Hosni Mubarak removal -Egypt- seemed even more ok to Obama as well as Clinton.

Both of the above were viewed as potential sources for favorable policy outcomes. Indeed the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt -as well as election of President Morsi- did not seem to be a concern for the White House.

However, when you get to Gaddaffi’s removal -Libya- you see a serious split between ideologies within the U.S. political class as Obama/Clinton actually pushed the outcome. The U.S. defense department saying they were apprehensive about This specific outcome, as well as Obama/Clinton going “all in” for Gaddaffi ouster with French President Sarkozy.

The same interventionist Obama/Clinton motivation was evident with Syria’s Assad as yet another uprising surfaced in yet another Mid-East nation – again in March/April 2011.

We know on October 20th 2011 Libyan Leader Muammar Gaddaffi was finally captured, then killed by “the rebels”.

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coming from the standpoint of “regime change” operation Zero Footprint was a success.

The Libyan Transitional National Council was right now in control. Well, maybe in charge, or, well, sort of.

The TNC (pictured below 4 days later) may have been the face of Libya the Obama/Clinton team wanted to portray. however they were merely just which, a face.

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We know Eastern Libya was then (2011), as well as will be right now (2016), a hotbed of radical Islam controlled by the Libyan Islamic Fighting Groups, the very people who benefited coming from the arms which were part of Zero Footprint.

We know by the Fall/Winter of 2011 the U.S. State Dept as well as CIA were joined as well as trying to re-secure the same weapons they provided within the Spring/Summer.

December 2011 – brand new York Times:

“Assistant Secretary of State Andrew J. Shapiro raised the American desire to arrange a purchase program in a meeting This specific month with Libya’s brand new defense minister, according to American officials familiar with the proposal.

The United States has committed $40 million to secure Libya’s arms stockpiles, much of the idea to prevent the spread of Manpads. No budget has been designed for a purchase program, as well as the cost to be paid for each missile as well as its components has not been determined, the official said. (link)

We know coming from a speech delivered by Asst. Secretary of State Shapiro in Feb of 2012 the actual program to recapture the Zero Footprint weapons began in August of 2011 about two months before Gaddaffi was killed:

“Once the stalemate broke as well as the fighting rapidly shifted within the TNC’s [Libyan Transitional National Council] favor in August, we immediately deployed a State Department expert coming from the MANPADS Task Force to Benghazi.

Mark Adams, who you will hear coming from shortly on the panel, will be the head of our MANPADS Task Force as well as spent considerable time on the ground in Libya.

[… ] The initial primary objective was to reach an agreement with the TNC to set up a MANPADS control as well as destruction program which might enable us to set up what we call our Phase I efforts.

Phase I entailed an effort to rapidly survey, secure, as well as disable loose MANPADS across the country. To accomplish This specific, we immediately deployed our Quick Reaction Force, which are teams made up of civilian technical specialists.”

We know those “civilian technical specialists”, being talked about in August 2011, were contractors, CIA contractors, hired by the State Department to recapture the weapons – some of which they provided as a specific consequence of Operation Zero Footprint.

If the story ended there the idea might be bad enough. A flawed policy, a secret mission arm the Libyan “rebels” without a great deal of thinking through the longer term consequences. A flawed policy with political consequences.

however when you think about the larger picture you understand why the details of the covert weapons operation Zero Footprint were so tightly guarded among select members of Congress (the Gang of Eight), the CIA (Panetta), the State Department (Clinton) as well as the White House (Donilon).

Each of them was trying to manage a covert operation which might expose a U.S. policy decision to arm al-Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood as well as different Islamist militias.

however which’s only “IF” the story ended there, in Libya, at the end of 2011 into the beginning of 2012. the idea didn’t, the decisions got worse – much worse.

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The uprising in Syria was only a few months behind the uprising in Libya. Arguably if the timing were reversed you could ponder which Assad might have met Gaddaffi’s fate, as well as Gaddaffi might be as alive today as President Assad.

Whichever rebel group got the attention of the R2P crowd was sure to be the first to get assistance. The Obama R2P Doctrine will be so tenuous, as well as so lacking in political principle, the idea’s subject to change based on the political whims of capitol hill at any given moment.

The Libyan “rebels” got all the weaponry love – the Syrian “rebels”, not-so-much. At least in 2011; by mid 2012 which sentiment appears to have changed.

Enter Hillary Clinton. As she reiterated vehemently to Greta Van Sustern during a recent interview, the idea was Hillary who wanted to help the Syrian rebels when no-one else wanted to assist them. Secretary Hillary Clinton wanted early as well as direct interventionist action in Syria to topple Assad just like Gaddaffi.

Obviously consequences coming from the first covert weapons mission in Libya made a stark case for not repeating the idea in Syria. Another huge factor against helping the FSA was Israel. Ultimately Israel could not afford to be put into such a risky position if Syrian rebel forces were given arms which ultimately might be used against them.

Additionally, you might think there’s no way congress, in an election year, might approve of funding Syrian rebels against the possibility of the idea hurting Israel; as well as the White House was not about to do a known as well as official covert operation which had a great potential to go sideways, as well as become far too politically dangerous. 2012 was an election year.

however they did.

Who wanted to aid Syria more? President Obama or Hillary Clinton? which will be a question for later year historians. Regardless of how the idea came up, we know a decision was made to do the idea, as well as to do the idea covertly.

Arming the Benghazi Darnah rebels was, well, stupid. the idea was actually stupid, as well as politically stupid, however the idea was not illegal.

Arming jihadist fighters in Syria likewise ended up being stupid however by all appearances NOT illegal.

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In August 2012, one month before the attack on the Benghazi Compound, the following Reuters article appeared. This specific will be how we find out about the SECOND presidential finding memo which again authorized covert CIA involvement, This specific time in Syria:

WASHINGTON, Aug 1 [2012] (Reuters) – President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad as well as his government, U.S. sources familiar with the matter said.

Obama’s order, approved earlier This specific year as well as known as an intelligence “finding,” broadly permits the CIA as well as different U.S. agencies to provide support which could help the rebels oust Assad.

This specific as well as different developments signal a shift toward growing, albeit still circumscribed, support for Assad’s armed opponents – a shift which intensified following last month’s failure of the U.N. Security Council to agree on tougher sanctions against the Damascus government.

The White House will be for right now apparently stopping short of giving the rebels lethal weapons, even as some U.S. allies do just which.

however U.S. as well as European officials have said which there have been noticeable improvements within the coherence as well as effectiveness of Syrian rebel groups within the past few weeks. which represents a significant change in assessments of the rebels by Western officials, who previously characterized Assad’s opponents as a disorganized, almost chaotic, rabble.

Precisely when Obama signed the secret intelligence authorization, an action not previously reported, could not be determined.

The full extent of clandestine support which agencies like the CIA might be providing also will be unclear.

White House spokesman Tommy Vietor declined comment.

‘NERVE CENTER’

A U.S. government source acknowledged which under provisions of the presidential finding, the United States was collaborating using a secret command center operated by Turkey as well as its allies.

Last week, Reuters reported which, along with Saudi Arabia as well as Qatar, Turkey had established a secret base near the Syrian border to help direct vital military as well as communications support to Assad’s opponents.

This specific “nerve center” will be in Adana, a city in southern Turkey about 60 miles (100 km) coming from the Syrian border, which will be also home to Incirlik, a U.S. air base where U.S. military as well as intelligence agencies maintain a substantial presence.

Turkey’s moderate Islamist government has been demanding Assad’s departure with growing vehemence. Turkish authorities are said by current as well as former U.S. government officials to be increasingly involved in providing Syrian rebels with training as well as possibly equipment.

European government sources said wealthy families in Saudi Arabia as well as Qatar were providing significant financing to the rebels. Senior officials of the Saudi as well as Qatari governments have publicly called for Assad’s departure.

On Tuesday, NBC News reported which the Free Syrian Army had obtained nearly two dozen surface-to-air missiles, weapons which could be used against Assad’s helicopters as well as fixed-wing aircraft. Syrian government armed forces have employed such air power more extensively in recent days.

NBC said the shoulder-fired missiles, also known as MANPADs, had been delivered to the rebels via Turkey.

On Wednesday, however, Bassam al-Dada, a political adviser to the Free Syrian Army, denied the NBC report, telling the Arabic-language TV network Al-Arabiya which the group had “not obtained any such weapons at all.” U.S. government sources said they could not confirm the MANPADs deliveries, however could not rule them out either.

Current as well as former U.S. as well as European officials previously said which weapons supplies, which were being organized as well as financed by Qatar as well as Saudi Arabia, were largely limited to guns as well as a limited number of anti-tank weapons, such as bazookas.

Indications are which U.S. agencies have not been involved in providing weapons to Assad’s opponents. In order to do so, Obama might have to approve a supplement, known as a “memorandum of notification, to his initial broad intelligence finding.

Further such memoranda might have to be signed by Obama to authorize different specific clandestine operations to support Syrian rebels.

Reuters first reported last week which the White House had crafted a directive authorizing greater U.S. covert assistance to Syrian rebels. the idea was unclear at which time whether Obama had signed the idea. (read more)

Note how the FSA says they didn’t get missiles, as well as yet missiles were shipped. This specific will be important against the backdrop of the reality the extreme elements we right now call ISIS were operating in Syria as well as openly laughing at our inability to identify them:

“NO ISLAM WITHOUT JIHAD” – members of the Free Syrian Army. Abu Khuder as well as his men fight for al-Qaida. They call themselves the ghuraba’a, or “strangers”, after a famous jihadi poem celebrating Osama bin Laden’s time with his followers within the Afghan mountains, as well as they are one of numerous jihadi organisations establishing a foothold within the east of the country right now which the conflict in Syria has stretched well into its second bloody year.
They try to hide their presence. “Some people are worried about carrying the [black] flags,” said Abu Khuder. “They fear America will come as well as fight us. So we fight in secret. Why give Bashar as well as the west a pretext?” however their existence will be common knowledge in Mohassen. Even passers-by joke with the men about car bombs as well as IEDs.

(JULY 2012) As they stood outside the commandeered government building within the town of Mohassen, the idea was hard to recognize Abu Khuder’s men coming from any different brigade within the Syrian civil war, in their combat fatigues, T-shirts as well as beards.

however these were not average members of the Free Syrian Army. Abu Khuder as well as his men fight for al-Qaida. They call themselves the ghuraba’a, or “strangers”, after a famous jihadi poem celebrating Osama bin Laden’s time with his followers within the Afghan mountains, as well as they are one of numerous jihadi organisations establishing a foothold within the east of the country right now which the conflict in Syria has stretched well into its second bloody year.

They try to hide their presence. “Some people are worried about carrying the [black] flags,” said Abu Khuder. “They fear America will come as well as fight us. So we fight in secret. Why give Bashar as well as the west a pretext?” however their existence will be common knowledge in Mohassen. Even passers-by joke with the men about car bombs as well as IEDs.

According to Abu Khuder, his men are working closely with the military council which commands the Free Syrian Army brigades within the region. “We meet almost every day,” he said. “We have clear instructions coming from our [al-Qaida] leadership which if the FSA need our help we should give the idea. We help them with IEDs as well as car bombs. Our main talent will be within the bombing operations.” Abu Khuder’s men had a lot of experience in bomb-generating coming from Iraq as well as elsewhere, he added.

[…] Abu Khuder split with the FSA as well as pledged allegiance to al-Qaida’s organisation in Syria, the Jabhat al Nusra or Solidarity Front. He let his beard grow as well as adopted the religious rhetoric of a jihadi, becoming a commander of one their battalions.

“The Free Syrian Army has no rules as well as no military or religious order. Everything happens chaotically,” he said. “Al-Qaida includes a law which no one, not even the emir, can break.

The FSA lacks the ability to plan as well as lacks military experience. which will be what [al-Qaida] can bring. They have an organisation which all countries have acknowledged.

within the beginning there were very few. right now, mashallah, there are immigrants joining us as well as bringing their experience,” he told the gathered people. “Men coming from Yemen, Saudi, Iraq as well as Jordan. Yemenis are the best in their religion as well as discipline as well as the Iraqis are the worst in everything – even in religion.”

At This specific, one man within the room – an activist in his mid-30s who did not want to be named – said: “So what are you trying to do, Abu Khuder? Are you going to start cutting off hands as well as make us like Saudi? will be This specific why we are fighting a revolution?”

“[Al-Qaida’s] goal will be establishing an Islamic state as well as not a Syrian state,” he replied. “Those who fear the organisation fear the implementation of Allah’s jurisdiction. If you don’t commit sins there will be nothing to fear.” (link – more)

Against the backdrop of ISIL 2014 does This specific Sound familiar ?

the idea should also be noted This specific will be the exact time (August 2012) when the U.N. as well as Kofi Annan gave up trying to influence a peaceful outcome in Syria – things had escalated beyond any wish for a diplomatic resolution.

We know the basic set up to arm the Syrian rebellion was generally not too complex.

Turkey might be used as the distribution hub, as well as the U.S. had Sunni friends in Saudi Arabia, as well as Qatar -who were more than willing to see Assad removed- as well as financially assist in arming the Syrians without too great a concern for what could happen to Israel.

For Obama/Clinton to get weapons to the Syrians, against the shadow of Operation Zero Footprint, without going extensively through congress, could be done covertly as well as easily. Either ship weapons just like Operation Zero Footprint, Saudi ==> Qatar ==> Turkey ==> Syria, OR, buy back the weapons already floating around coming from Operation Zero Footprint as well as redirect them to Syria through Turkey.

OR both.

The Saudis might be a willing financier if the State Dept needed additional money to facilitate the transfers.

We know Ambassador Chris Stevens set up a formal U.S. Embassy consulate in Tripoli around May 26th of 2012; as well as we know the State Dept as well as CIA set up their joint operations in Benghazi around the same time. We also right now know This specific will be around the EXACT time of the second Presidential CIA Directive.

Looking at the historical timeline, as well as knowing the contacts developed, gives a great perspective into what might have spurred the CIA/State Department to set up a more expansive presence as well as operation within the coastal region of Eastern Libya May/June 2012.

The official U.S. State Dept Libyan presence was vacated on Feb 25th of 2011 when the embassy personnel were evacuated. Stevens was re-establishing the diplomatic office as well as acting as Ambassador to Libya during the 2012 reconstruction phase.

What we did not know at the time was which Chris Stevens was also acting as the facilitator for U.S. arms shipments OUT OF LIBYA, through Turkish diplomatic couriers as well as into Syria. While coordinating a second covert action to arm the Syrian resistance.

A very strong argument can easily be made which Chris Stevens was a CIA operative inside the State Department. Many people within the State Department are CIA personnel using the State Dept as part of their visible cover.

In Eastern Libya June, July, August 2012 – Obviously the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, Ansar Al Sharia, aka 17th Feb Brigade, as well as all of their commanders knew of the U.S. Benghazi weapons programs. Both the 2011 distribution, as well as the 2012 repurchase.

Considering the redeployment to Syria – for the most part the Benghazi as well as Darnah brigades might have been in alignment with their Jihadist brethren in Syria being the beneficiaries of any additional shipments.

however there was in 2011/2012 – as noted within the above articles – an ideological rift between the newly emboldened Muslim Brotherhood as well as the ‘more initially moderate’ Free Syrian Army (FSA). As the Libyan conflict rolled on through the summer of 2011 more al-Qaeda elements flocked coming from different engagements into the Syrian fight. Moderates were replaced by extremists.

By the time of the second presidential directive, as Hillary as well as Chris Stevens were working on support for Syria, Summer 2012, the radical Syrian opposition was embedded inside the FSA. Arguably in hindsight they were the majority element.

The Syrian opposition had three al-Qaida arms operating within the idea. Including one which also operated in Libya:

      • Jund al-Sham, which will be made up of al-Qaida militants who are Syrian, Palestinian as well as Lebanese;
      • Jund al-Islam, which in recent years merged with Ansar al-Islam, an extremist group of Sunni Iraqis operating under the al-Qaida banner as well as operating in Yemen as well as Libya;
      • Jund Ansar al-Allah, an al-Qaida group based in Gaza linked to Palestinian camps in Lebanon as well as Syria.

the idea might be into This specific eclectic mix of Jihadist ideologues, which later became ISIL, which any diverted U.S. arms might flow. the idea’s no wonder which Senator John McCain was so confused when he was calling them “moderates” in 2012/2013. Almost no-one knew the severe elements in Syria might rise to the surface as well as become the modern ISIS right now capturing all of the global attention.

ISIS John McCain - Abu Mosa

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as well as…. If you just realized…. Yes, ISIS or ISIL currently on the march in Iraq, came coming from Syria, fought in Syria as well as more than likely was armed by the U.S. inside Syria as well as Turkey.

They were more likely trained, in Adana, a city in southern Turkey about 60 miles (100 km) coming from the Syrian border, which will be also home to Incirlik, a U.S. air base where U.S. military as well as intelligence agencies maintain a substantial presence; by the same CIA operatives used by the State Dept to send Syria weapons coming from Benghazi as well as Darnah back in Libya.

If Operation Zero Footprint in Libya was stupid, arming the Syrian branches of al-Qaeda two years after the FSA was thoroughly corrupted by al-Qaeda, will be infinite degrees beyond stupid.

however which’s hindsight for ya….. or as Secretary Clinton might say “Whether they were, … at This specific point, what difference does the idea make?

By June of 2012 the brand new York Times was reporting which the CIA will be operating a secret arms transfer program to Syria which sounded exactly like the re-diversion plan Clinton developed with Panetta/Petraeus.

According to the Times suddenly, there will be: “…an influx of weapons as well as ammunition to the rebels.”

The Reuters article in August 2012 confirms the earlier report.

We know on September 5th 2012 – A Libyan flagged ship called Al Entisar (“The Victory”) docks within the Turkish port of Iskenderun. the idea will be carrying 400 tons of cargo including many weapons such as rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) as well as shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles (MANPADS) destined for Syrian rebels 35 miles away coming from Iskenderun.

The ship’s captain told the Times of London which the Muslim Brotherhood as well as the Free Syrian Army broke into a fight over the arms.

Operation Zero Footprint

In response to the Times of London report, as well as in a generally dismissed part of her congressional testimony, Senator Rand Paul asked outgoing Secretary Hillary Clinton a very specific question – (See @2:20 of This specific video as well as pay attention to the “duping delight”):

Which might bring us to a series of right now reconcilable questions surrounding the joint State Dept. as well as CIA Benghazi Mission.

The entire weapons operation 2011 was labeled “Operation Zero Footprint”. The intent will be outlined within the operational title – to leave no visible record of U.S. involvement in arming the Libyan “rebels”. No visible footprint.

We know coming from congressional inquiry Ambassador Chris Stevens had asked for more security within the months prior to Sept. 11th 2012. Requests sent to the State Dept which were denied.

We also know which NO MARINE DETACHMENT was ever put in place to defend the Benghazi Mission.

We also know the Benghazi Mission was initially, as well as mistakenly by media, called “a consulate”, or a “consulate outpost”. however there was no State Dept record of any consulate office in Benghazi.

All of these seeming contradictions can be reconciled with the simple understanding which This specific “Mission” in 2011 was unofficial. Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

We also know the Second Operation, in 2012, to arm the Syrians’ was also covert – No visible footprint.

Why were security requests denied? Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

We know coming from General Carter Ham (AFRICOM Commander right now retired) the Department of Defense was not even aware the State Dept was operating a mission in Benghazi during 2012. Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

How could Hillary Clinton, Charlene Lamb, or Patrick Kennedy approve or request a marine security detachment knowing the entire mission around both Benghazi operations was covert?

Such a request might have traveled outside the little group of State/CIA insiders. The request might have gone to DoD. Short answer, they couldn’t.

Hence the disconnect between what seemed to be obvious as well as/or simple questions as well as the inability to accurately discuss within the public venues of congressional inquiry.

To the public Chris Stevens was a U.S. ambassador, a diplomat. To the folks inside the State Dept as well as CIA, Chris Stevens was a U.S. Ambassador, as well as a CIA operative coordinating covert arms sales.

In 2011 those arms shipments were to aid the Libyan rebels, in 2012 those same arms were redirected to aid the Syrian rebels.

Even after death the public face of Chris Stevens, the official role, was the only role able to be discussed. The covert, or unofficial role, was not. Again, we see the disconnect between inquiry which could be answered, as well as inquiry which could not be answered. Many irreconcilables surface because of This specific intelligence role – even through today.

The second role of Stevens, the covert as well as CIA aspect, still causes problems for people trying to understand the “why not” questions. The broader public asking why have we not seen, or heard coming from the survivors of the attacks?

The short answer will be:

we have not heard coming from the survivors – however the intelligence community has.

Twice some of the survivors have given testimony to congress. The problem for the public will be which those hearings are closed door, classified, intelligence hearings – led by then Chairman Mike Rogers as well as the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Again, go back to the beginning of Operation Zero Footprint as well as you see the congressional Intelligence Gang of Eight were fully aware of the intents.

The Gang of Eight in 2011 / 2012 was: House Speaker – John Boehner, Minority Leader – Nancy Pelosi; House Permanent Select Committee on Intel Chairman – Mike Rogers, as well as his Democrat counterpart Charles Ruppersberger; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, as well as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid; along with Senate Intel Chair Diane Feinstein as well as her Republican counterpart, Saxby Chambliss.

Why was Speaker Boehner reluctant to establish a Select Committee on Benghazi ?

Simple, again he will be one of the Gang of Eight – as well as he was briefed on both operations. How will be he going to call for a select committee to investigate when he knows the substance of the committee investigation will be classified under national security. Such a committee might not, because the idea could not, deliver what the public was requesting, sunlight.

The only reason Trey Gowdy was finally assigned the task of a Select Committee, was simply because the public lies of the White House as well as administration were contradicting themselves. More trumpet, more noise, was needed to cloud the stark reality which both political parties held oversight over the entire Benghazi debacle.

The White House “talking points“, which was/will be a ridiculous squirrel hunt, were created to reconcile the problem faced when unable to discuss a covert operation.

the idea will be far easier to look at the reality of the problem faced by the White House as well as CIA than any nefarious intention.

Unfortunately for the administration, or for any administration, they are not which not bad at controlling facts when questions which cannot be answered publicly are asked publicly.

Team Obama was so committed to keeping the covert operation “Zero Footprint” a secret (because of the political embarrassment coming from factually arming al Qaeda) which the cover story they manufactured (on the fly) was fraught with contradictions.

How could President Obama dispatch help to the Benghazi team, when DoD was not even aware of the idea’s existence? Sending help might have compromised OpSec, Operational Security.

The dispatch of F.E.S.T. might lead to increased knowledge of a covert operation.

Hopefully you are beginning to see the root of the contradictions. Once you understand the truth of what was going on within the back story – there’s almost nothing left which might dangle as an unanswered question. the idea all reconciles.

Back to the FALL of 2012 – On September 5th/6th 2012 the Turkish vessel “Al Entisar” docked within the Turkish port of Iskenderun. 400 tons of serious cargo including weapons destined for Syrian “rebels”.

within the U.S. which September 5th night former President Bill Clinton was introducing Candidate Barack Obama at the DNC convention in Charlotte North Carolina. In Afghanistan which night something happened which had already become a serious concern for the operatives within “Operation Zero Footprint”.

Chief Warrant Officer 2 Thalia Ramirez. Ramirez was killed when her OH-58D Kiowa Warrior helicopter crashed in eastern Afghanistan Sept. 5, 2012. Ramirez was assigned to Troop F, 1-17 Air Cavalry Regiment, 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division. Photo: Photo Courtesy Pro Image Digital;Inc., Courtesy / U.S. ArmyAt the exact time Clinton was speaking in North Carolina, halfway around the planet in Afghanistan Army Chief Warrant Officers Thalia S. Ramirez, 28, of San Antonio as well as Jose L. Montenegro Jr., 31, of San Juan, within the Rio Grande Valley, were killed while flying an OH-58D Kiowa Warrior, a Defense Department news Discharge stated.

On September 5th 2012 – A U.S. organized ship loaded with weapons including missiles was offloading at a Turkish port. Bill Clinton was introducing Barack Obama, as well as the first black female combat pilot was shot down as well as killed by a shoulder fired missile in Afghanistan.

The relationship between the three events reflects the absolute political fear which revolved around Operation Zero Footprint.

The CIA as well as Intelligence community had stated earlier the biggest concern anyone held about arming the Libyan Rebels was the possibility those weapons might leave the Libyan conflict as well as travel to different locations where they might be used against our own soldiers. More as well as more evidence of This specific happening was growing.

In 2011 a total of four air assets were destroyed by enemy fire in Afghanistan. Two of those helicopters happened at the same time in August 2011 when we lost the Navy Seal unit which killed Osama Bin Laden. 22 Americans killed.

We had been in close quarter full combat operations in Afghanistan for 10 years, as well as we never had a problem with close air support. We had never faced the concern of our enemy having MANPADS.

coming from 2002 through 2010 Combat Operations saw zero occurrences of SAMS, Stingers, or MANPADS in general.

Within months after delivering weapons to the Benghazi as well as Darnah rebels (May, June as well as July 2011) we began facing MANPADS in Afghanistan.

Four instances in late in 2011 including the 22 lives lost in what came to be known as Operation “Extortion 17”.

In 2012 the idea got worse, much worse: June 1st AFGHANISTAN:

A combined patrol discovered a weapons cache containing three shoulder-fired, surface-to-air missiles, three anti-tank mines, 423 RPGs, 118,0 7.62 mm rounds, 30 rifles as well as different ordnance within the Tarin Kot district of Uruzgan province. The cache’s contents were destroyed. (link)

We had a serious problem as well as the idea was picking up speed exponentially. June 6th 2012 we lost another crew. July 25th 2012 yet another. August 16th 2012 again more losses. September 5th 2012 more deaths. the idea just kept getting worse.

By September 5th 2012 within the preceding nine months we had lost 11 helicopters to shoulder fired missiles in Afghanistan. The following headline hit the media:

One of the incidents revealed details of what was being faced. The July 25th 2012 downing of a CH-47 which was found to have been hit using a “brand new generation” stinger missile. The risks were no longer mere worries, they were real:

[O]n July 25, 2012, Taliban fighters in Kunar province successfully targeted a US Army CH-47 helicopter using a brand new generation Stinger missile.

They thought they had a surefire kill. however instead of bursting into flames, the Chinook just disappeared into the darkness as the American pilot recovered control of the aircraft as well as brought the idea to the ground in a hard landing.

The assault team jumped out the open doors as well as ran clear in case the idea exploded. Less than 30 seconds later, the Taliban gunner as well as his comrade erupted into flames as an American gunship overhead locked onto their position as well as opened fire.

The next day, an explosive ordnance disposal team arrived to pick through the wreckage as well as found unexploded pieces of a missile casing which could only belong to a Stinger missile.

Lodged within the right nacelle, they found one fragment which contained an entire serial number.

The investigation took time. Arms were twisted, noses put out of joint. however when the results came back, they were stunning: The Stinger tracked back to a lot which had been signed out by the CIA recently, not during the anti-Soviet ­jihad.

Reports of the Stinger reached the highest echelons of the US command in Afghanistan as well as became a source of intense speculation, however no action.

Everyone knew the war was winding down. Revealing which the Taliban had US-made Stingers risked demoralizing coalition troops. Because there were no coalition casualties, government officials made no public announcement of the attack.

My sources within the US Special Operations community believe the Stinger fired against the Chinook was part of the same lot the CIA turned over to the ­Qataris in early 2011, weapons Hillary Rodham Clinton’s State Department intended for anti-Khadafy forces in Libya.

They believe the Qataris delivered between 50 as well as 60 of those same Stingers to the Taliban in early 2012, as well as a different 0 SA-24 Igla-S surface-to-air missiles. (link)

In Afghanistan the DoD field response was immediate; all Close Air Support was cancelled.

The White House had a problem – “Operation Zero Footprint” missiles were right now being used against us, however DoD didn’t know the origin because the Defense Department did not know about Zero Footprint, the State Department as well as CIA did.

The killing of Army Chief Warrant Officers Thalia S. Ramirez, 28, as well as Jose L. Montenegro Jr., 31, might not have been the final straw – however their September 5th 2012 deaths coincided with an absolute change in direction.

While the ISIS-minded Syrian Muslim Brotherhood as well as the Free Syrian Army were arguing over who gets what coming from aboard the Turkish vessel, back in Benghazi, Libya the idea was obvious the ideology of the Syrian factions were too extreme as well as the CIA could no longer control who might use such weapons.

God forbid DoD ground commanders in Afghanistan find out the MANPADS they were facing originated by our covert efforts in Libya.

Tayyip Erdogan - Turkey, David Cameron - U.K.

Tayyip Erdogan – Turkey, David Cameron – U.K.

Strangely one must give credit to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. As unbelievable as the idea might sound he was the lone Islamic voice in March 2011 saying “don’t arm the Benghazi rebels“:

March 2011 – Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish prime minister, has said he does not support the idea of arming Libyan rebels fighting to oust Muammar Gaddafi coming from power.

Speaking at a joint news conference with David Cameron, the British prime minister, in London, Erdogan said: “Doing which might create a different situation in Libya as well as we do not find the idea appropriate to do which.”

Erdogan also said which which sending weapons to Libya could feed terrorism, saying such weapons shipments “could also create an environment which could be conducive to terrorism”. (read more)

Erdogan as well as U.S. Defense Secretary Bob Gates were of the same mindset.

“My view might be, if there will be going to be which kind of assistance to the opposition, there are plenty of sources for the idea different than the United States,” said Gates. “Somebody else should do which.” (link)

However, for Syria in 2012 Erdogan had a divergent opinion. He was all for arming the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda. This specific article, again coming from August 2012 – one month prior to the attack against Chris Stevens, outlines the goal of both Erdogan as well as President Obama:

(August 2012) President Barack Obama as well as Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan spoke by telephone Monday “to coordinate efforts to accelerate a political transition in Syria,” the White House said.

This specific “might include the departure of (Syrian leader) Bashar Assad as well as be responsive to the legitimate demands of the Syrian people,” the statement said.

Obama as well as Erdogan shared their concerns over the Syrian regime’s crackdown on opposition “as well as the deteriorating humanitarian conditions throughout Syria as a result of the regime’s atrocities.”

Both [Obama as well as Erodgan] promised to coordinate efforts to help the growing numbers of Syrians displaced by the violence within Syria or forced to flee over the border to take refuse in Turkey or different nations within the region.

The statement said US as well as Turkish teams “might remain in close contact on ways which Turkey as well as the United States can work together to promote a democratic transition in Syria.” (link)

Obama Erdogan - Turkey

Alas, given the backstory of DoD not wanting to arm the rebels, as well as given the unintended consequences of 2011/2012 coming from Operation Zero Footprint, as well as given an upcoming election in November 2012, you can see why in post September 11 of 2012 the Obama administration might want to discontinue This specific operation as well as throw a bag over the events of the past 17 months.

Perhaps following the fiasco at the Port of Iskenderun a week earlier, Turkish Diplomat Consul General Ali Sait Akin arrives at the Benghazi Mission on Sept 11th 2012 to talk about the ongoing efforts to support Syria.

Perhaps, the conversation was about the increasing risk of arming a rising group of radicals against the backdrop of MANPADS being used against U.S. forces in different fields of combat.

Regardless of motivation Ali Sait Akin as well as Stevens were most certainly discussing the current situation with Turkey suffering the consequences as well as pushing a greater sense of urgency.

Indeed Turkey’s border region was filled with historic numbers of Syrian refugees fleeing the fighting which was completely out of control. The Scale of the crisis was staggering as well as out of control. Over 500,000 Syrians were right now seeking shelter in Turkey.

Meanwhile the ideology of the radical elements controlling the arms shipments was openly becoming a danger to the entire region, as well as especially U.S. interests beyond Syria.

This specific might have put Stevens (U.S.) as well as Akin (Turkey) as opposing ends of the issue.

What we right now know as ISIS – originated inside This specific group of Zero Footprint recipients, as well as Erdogan, a Muslim Brotherhood supporter, wanted to see Assad removed at any cost.

The rabid ideologues (right now known as ISIS-2014) were quickly evolving into a risk for the region. The U.S. policy team might have viewed the risk far differently than Turkey.

As the brand new York Times reported in an Oct. 14 2012 article, “Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia as well as Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, as well as not the more secular opposition groups which the West wants to bolster.”

We can only imagine the conversation within the Benghazi compound as both Ali Sait Akin as well as Chris Stevens parted ways for the final time on September 11th 2012.

Outside the compound walls, the 17th Feb Brigade – Ansar Al Sharia – were also assembled to deliver their final goodbyes.

The Turkish delegation was able to navigate the roadblocks without issue. as well as within 30 minutes of Consul Akin leaving the venue, Ansar Al Sharia executed their attack.

The Benghazi as well as Darnah Brigades already knew the compound inside as well as out, as well as the CIA ANNEX compound, a kilometer away, which contained four warehouse type buildings used by the CIA during the collection, distribution as well as delivery of Zero Footprint’s objectives over the past 17 months.

In June of 2009 the primary Benghazi Mission compound looked like This specific:

In March of 2011, when Operation Zero Footprint began, the Tactical Operations Command building (TOC) was added as well as the idea looked like This specific:

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In December of 2005 the area which became the CIA Annex compound held two buildings:

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In 2009 two more buildings were added bringing the total to FOUR:

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By the time the CIA took over 2011, as well as when the compound came under mortar fire 2012, the idea looked like This specific:

Author’s notes:

patriotThe primary reason for outlining This specific brief will be to deliver a greater understanding of why things happened the way they did within the post 9/11/12 attack media frenzy.

If you understand what took place coming from March 2011 through the night of the attack itself all of the contradictions reconcile, as well as most of the questions become answered.

Factually, I might challenge anyone who reads This specific brief to actually have a question left unanswered.

The events of the attack itself are gut wrenching as well as troubling. Our brave operations folks had to fight their way out of a situation where they literally were on their own due to the political risks inherent in carrying out their objectives.

However, they knew they were beyond the wire, they knew they were covert – they knew there was no manner, method or possibility of protection…. as well as This specific will be the point everyone seems to miss:

THEY HAD TO KNOW THE DoD WAS within the DARK ABOUT THEIR ACTIVITY. There was NOTHING the Pentagon could have done to help them. Those people inside the Eastern Libya City of Benghazi, operating on behalf of the administration, were, for all intents as well as purposes, GHOSTS. They did not “technically” exist.

Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with the mission they were tasked to carry out, there will be no doubt they worked honorably to serve their nation. Ultimately the leadership within the State Department, The CIA, as well as the White House are responsible for the outcomes of policy.

Our wish will be which This specific outline will stimulate journalists to question those who were at the heart of these two operations. Ultimately the Trey Gowdy select committee will find there will be no venue to discuss intelligence operations with public sunlight. While both Zero Footprint in 2011, as well as the Unnamed CIA operation in 2012 were flawed policy – they were not necessarily illegal.

There will be a matter of an unidentified State Dept $6 billion contractor fund missing coming from Hillary’s term as Secretary of State; which might bear investigation. However, beyond those smaller questions there will be little if anything to gain.

FUBAR.

~ Sundance

Common Questions: The AFTERMATH – “The Cairo Protest VS The Benghazi Attack”

Here will be where people get confused – because the U.S. State department wanted people to get confused.

On 9/11/12 the State Department was originally trying to deflect attention away coming from the Cairo Embassy Protest.

CNN correspondent Nick Robertson interviewed Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohammed Al Zawahiri on the morning of the planned Cairo protest 9/11/12. Zawahiri as well as team told Robertson they were rallying as well as protesting for the Discharge of the Blind Sheik.

The protest turned violent as well as the U.S. Embassy was overrun by extremists who eventually hoisted the black flag of al-Qaeda within the compound.

The State Dept was trying desperately to cover their ass as well as frame the narrative so the optics of the al-Qaeda onslaught to the Embassy could be controlled.

To hide the intentions of the protesting mob (Discharge of the Blind Sheik) the U.S. State Department fell back on a story about the Mohammed video – which they found out about two days earlier.

Against the backdrop of an upcoming election, as well as with Republicans beating up Democrats over the short-sighted foreign policy, the State Dept did not want the Muhammed Al Zawahiri narrative. The compound being overrun was a political embarrassment so they used the silly video to explain the protest:

(Remember This specific will be all early within the day – prior to the Benghazi attack)

However, Mitt Romney jumped on This specific State Dept. Press Discharge to make the case which the U.S. appeared weak as well as apologetic. the idea created an immediate stir.

Unknown at the time was an UNRELATED attack was taking place at the Benghazi compound. The attack at Benghazi Libya had nothing to do with the protests at the Cairo embassy.

However, once the Benghazi attack took place, the State Dept needed a cover story which might sell to the U.S. electorate to explain the Benghazi issues. What Hillary as well as team did was sell/use the Cairo story as an explanation for Benghazi.

This specific will be how the U-Tube video came into play.

The U-Tube video had nothing to do with the Cairo Embassy Protest.
The U-Tube video had nothing to do with the Benghazi attack.

Nothing about the U-Tube story was correct. the idea was all manufactured excuse-generating, strategically put into the media cycle to protect the administration coming from the reality of flawed policy.

The U-Tube video had nothing to do with the Embassy protest in Cairo, nor the Benghazi attack in Libya. By right now I think everyone might concur, albeit the media never went back to the Cairo motive to discuss because the idea became a secondary issue.

Did the Muslim Brotherhood leadership in Cairo, or specifically Muhammed Al Zawahiri, coordinate in some way with Ansar al Sharia in Libya, specifically on 9/11/12?

which’s a not bad question – unfortunately however, the idea’s a question without a factual answer. I don’t know; as well as an argument can be made which given all of the players as well as the influx of their communication the idea’s quite possible there was some coordination of effort.

What will be factually certain will be any communication they did have had nothing to do using a ridiculous U-Tube video.

The Cairo protest was 100% certain to be about the Discharge of the Blind Sheik.

Was the Benghazi attack related in some effort to gain a hostage (Chris Stevens) as leverage toward which Al Zawahiri effort? Possible. I’ve seen which argument made, however have not been able to definitively connect the two.

the idea will be a hard question to answer because the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood, Muhammed Al Zawahiri (the brother of al-Qaeda’s #1 Ayman Al Zawahiri), as well as the leadership of Ansar Al Sharia were not necessarily telling the foot soldiers the plans or larger objectives.

We do, however, believe the answer, if known, might be known by Fattah el-Sisi in Egypt as well as his team of military as well as intelligence people. The most reasonable approach will be to listen to the Egyptian intelligence leadership on This specific point.

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However, within the years between the attack (2012) as well as today (2016) the U.S. political relationship with Egypt has completely collapsed. When you consider what Fattah al Sisi might know about the Benghazi cover-up, you discover another motive behind the horrendous diplomatic relationship the White House has with Egypt since the forced removal of Mohamed Morsi.

The last thing President Obama wants might be to see Western/U.S. journalists talking to al Sisi; as well as Obama most certainly wouldn’t want Sisi on U.S. soil as some political delegation.

…. Which also takes a person to accept which Egypt (Sisi) as well as Jordan (Abdullah), are right now very close with Russia’s Vladimir Putin. Much closer than they have ever been historically. which relationship also carries the very real potential to explain why there will be additional vitriol between Clinton as well as Obama toward Putin.

Putin could very well be in possession of all the information about everything outlined above. as well as be very smug in his knowledge which at any time he could use This specific information to leverage Clinton as well as/or any of the characters which surround Clinton who participated within the Libyan as well as Syrian operations.

Source : The Fifth Year Anniversary of September 11th Attack on Benghazi Libya…